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  1. We here in San Antonio still support the Saints. You are right on regarding the “thanks for nothing” attitude though. It’s okay, we will support our Spurs and keep counting the rings in the coming years.

    Comment by Rob — 10/29/2005 @ 05:33:26 PM

  2. Whether Benson wanted the team out or not is irrelevent, even a more straight-up owner would have to move the team out. With projections of New Orleans being half its previous size, that’s not nearly enough to support a team. I have ties to New Orleans and it’s one of my favorite cities in the country, but better now than after NO sinks all kinds of money in to unsuccessfully trying to get them to stay in an unsustainable environment.

    And while LA is too big and prominant a city to pass up, I can certainly agree that San Antonio is getting hosed. Not just because they’re not staying there (understandable, LA is LA), but because of the attitude taken towards a city considerably larger than more than a couple that presently are represented in the NFL.

    Comment by trumwill — 10/31/2005 @ 01:37:37 AM

  3. You’re sticking to a correlation between city size and viability for hosting an NFL (or any other major league sport) franchise. That simply doesn’t exist. Jacksonville is just barely a million people, and they got an expansion team. If the number of people was a significant factor, LA wouldn’t have gone a decade without a team.

    Actual population of a city/metro area is irrelevant; each team’s cut of the league’s TV revenue by itself cover the payroll, and after that it’s pure gravy. What matters is what a city can offer up: Control of a stadium (including revenue streams from all non-football events, concessions, etc.), propery development options, etc. If New Orleans can deliver that, it’s not going to matter how many people are living there.

    And the saddest part: Even if New Orleans can’t deliver right now, they’re still going to take stabs at it in future years until they finally get a team back.

    Comment by CT — 10/31/2005 @ 09:36:16 AM

  4. The problem is that New Orleans was barely larger than Jacksonville ever prior to Katrina (and Jacksonville itself is an anomale). The Saints (like the Jags) punch above their population class, but they were #38 in the last official census. The current projections put them more in league with El Paso than San Antonio, more than a couple hundred thousand short of the smallest metro area with *any* professional team (Salt Lake City) and quite possibly the second largest city in the state.

    City size isn’t the only factor, but there’s only so far above your weight class that you can punch. Especially when there are cities with more people right now and population trends moving faster in the right direction that are willing and able to give a lot more than New Orleans can.

    To the extent that they can actually make a go of it financially (and I’m not at all convinced that they can, but that depends largely on how man - and who - move back, which neither of us know), I’m not sure what sense it makes objectively when there are so many other possibilities out there that would actually be able to draw the attendance.

    In a best case scenario, New Orleans may be sustainable years from now. But Los Angeles is almost certainly so right now. Sacramento and Portland as well. San Antonio maybe. They’ll probably end up in Anaheim.

    Comment by trumwill — 11/01/2021 @ 11:27:46 PM

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